Audacity of Hypocrisy: Volume XV

It seems that the sad series of cases where Obama says one thing and does another is far from over. After promising to strengthen the prospect of the federal public financing system, suddenly Obama is having second thoughts.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/04/obama-prepares.html

Apparently, since he's rolling in the dough he can through his principles to the wind - how shockingly rare for a person with access to mounds of wealth.

Can we really afford to have the credibility of the Democratic Party take a hit by making this guy our nominee?



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Obama is getting public financing -- from more than a million donors.  Why should the taxpayers be paying for the campaign? His support is so broad-based that influence-buying just isn't a concern as it would be for a campaign based on large donors.  

And I'm sure his campaign will make these arguments and virtually no one would decide to not support him because he doesn't take taxpayer money for the general election campaign.


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by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:00:29 AM EST

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Settle down, Beavis.  

Point to me the statement from Obama where he pledged to abide by Public Financing for this election.  He did not.  He was not going to do so knowing 527s are out there waiting to tear at whichever candidate was elected.

Christ, man, this is exactly the kind of thing we want from our Democrats!  A refusal to bend over and take it when doing so gives significant advantage to the Republicans!  

McCain is screwed on financing his campaign.  Hell if this were Hillary, and even if Hillary HAD promised to strongly go with public financing, I'd back her decision not to.  

THINK OUTSIDE YOUR NARROW CANDIDATE-CHEERLEADING BOX FOR ONCE.  


by LarsThorwald on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:02:02 AM EST

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" The pledge I am referring to came last September in Obama's answers to a questionnaire by the Midwest Democracy Network.

The question was: "If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?"

Obama checked: "Yes" and wrote:

"In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. ..."

The Washington Post's Fact Checker, the esteemed Michael Dobbs, has given Mr. Obama two Pinnochios for the campaign's attempt to claim this was not a pledge to enter into the public financing system. "Obama's affirmative answer to the Midwest Democracy Network seems unequivocal," Dobbs writes. "Now that Obama is raising $1 million a day, his enthusiasm for public financing appears to have waned."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/
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there ya go. and the posters name is alvic63, not beavis.


by the Walrus on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:16:40 AM EST
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Why are you and the diarist so concerned that John McCain may be outspent?


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:24:46 AM EST
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spin like a top man.


by the Walrus on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:28:01 AM EST
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Well?  Why are you?


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:33:37 AM EST
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big money (none / 0)

The whole point of public financing is to reduce the influence of big money people in politics. Since Obama has already achieved that I would say that he kept his pledge...and didn't take my tax dollars to do it.

Obama is a genius!  


by JoeCoaster on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:05:45 AM EST

A bigger question (none / 0)

I am an Obama supporter and I have to admit I am wondering why this has been brought up now...without arguing for who pledged what...I wonder why?

Also - does anyone know if HRC has committed to Public Financing? If so, then this will represent a major policy difference between the two candidates.


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by Newcomer on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:06:06 AM EST

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HRC did not take public financing.  This is between Barack Obama and John McCain.

John McCain may be forced into taking public financing because he used it as collateral at one point when his campaign was in debt, and he tried to make an issue out of it a month back.  I wonder why this is being brought up again?


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:26:22 AM EST
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Isn't John McCain already in violation of public financing laws?

Anyway, I do not want him opting into public financing.  He should not have checked 'yes' - 527s and spending by the national party make public financing meaningless.  Howard Dean has spent most of the Democrat's money on "party building" - which is good - but it means that he's going to have to run on his own, while John McCain is going to be getting a multi-million dollar assist from the RNC, as well as weirdly named groups like "Citizens for a Strong Democracy" that will pop up out of nowhere and run negative ads.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:23:16 AM EST

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The point of the diary is that Obama is going back on his "pledge". Here is what Obama stated:

["In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."]


by nikkid on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:03:32 PM EST

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The question is whether America is going to trust a man who breaks his promises even before he's in a position of authority. It pretty much is a question of credibility and trust. My mother always told me, "never make promises that you can't keep." I doubt I am the only person who learned that lesson.


by alvic63 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:05:23 PM EST

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Yes that's nice, but it ignores the fact that John McCain is already in violation of campaign finance laws.

How on earth do you make a pledge under those circumstances?


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:23:40 PM EST
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